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103: Britney Muller: Deciphering the alien nature and the ethical complexities of LLMs

108: Ezra Fishman: Wistia’s VP of Growth on healthy data skepticism and North star metric limitations

100: Sara McNamara: Pathfinding via Attribution, AI Tool Evaluation, and Mastery in Communication and Boundary Setting

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We’re two SaaS marketers passionate about helping early marketers level up to managers by discovering the constantly evolving world of marketing technology.

This show isn’t about us pretending to be marketing influencers or thought leaders. We’re just two guys who’ve been incredibly lucky to experience rapid career growth and we want to help you get there too.

Jonathan Taylor

I’ve been an in-house Marketer, a Marketing Manager, a Marketing Operations Consultant, a Technical SEO Consultant, a Revenue Operations Director and a Marketing Director. I’m currently consulting for various clients.

Phil Gamache

I’ve been a Demand-gen Manager, a Marketing Automation Manager, a Marketing Director, a Marketing Technology Instructor, a Marketing Ops Manager and a Director of Growth Marketing. I currently work at Pelago (Quit Genius).

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We also talk with Martech pros from all over the globe wearing all different kinds of hats. From early marketers at startups to senior leaders at huge SaaS companies, we cover insights across the board.

AI analytics attribution automation b2b balance career career growth cdp ChatGPT composable cdp composable martech data warehouse email experiment funnel happy hubspot lifecycle marketo mql operations ottawa packaged CDP saas sales segmentation seo startup

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We’re going to talk about the technical stuff and the people skills side of things. Datawarehouses, CDPs, analytics, lifecycle but also career plans, marketing roadmaps, async work and escapism. If you’re serious about carving a craft in one of the most exciting and in demand industries, join us on our quest to get more humans into martech.

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